When that which is perfect comes

If the age of healing, signs and wonders has passed with the original apostles—the ‘perfect having come’ (1 Cor 13:10) as some teach— then what else has ceased? What other promises and instructions which we read about in the New Testament have now passed away as being ‘childish things’ (I Cor 13:8-12)?

What about all the things Jesus commanded, prophesied or promised us such as . . .

Mat 28:19. ‘Go and make disciples of the gentiles, teaching them to observe ALL I have commanded you’ and ‘I am with you even to the end of the age’

Mark 16:17-20.  ‘These signs shall follow those who believe . . . . . ‘

John 4:24. Worship of the Father in spirit and truth.

John 7:37-39:  rivers of living water for any who thirst and comes to Jesus after He is glorified.

John 14:12. ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father.’  

John 14:13. ‘Whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.’

John 14:14. ‘If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.’

Acts 2:39  ‘. . . this promise (the gift of the Holy Spirit) is for you and your children and to as many as are far off, to those who call upon my name’

So many promises found in the letters of Paul (Romans 8, 2 Cor 3, etc) and Peter.

What else then may we doubt applies to our times? The grace of God? The indwelling of the Father and the Son? The fullness and power of the Holy Spirit? The guidance of the Holy Spirit? His convicting of sin? Our bodies being temples of the Holy Spirit? Marriage only between a man and a woman?

Has healing of our sicknesses now ceased and if so what about the forgiveness of sins? Is it suddenly no longer the will of God to heal the sick (these go together in many scriptures!) Has the new covenant ceased too? Do we set aside the Lord’s supper as being childish? Do we now doubt the resurrection of the body?

Then we also see many other things Jesus commanded have been forgotten or ‘wiped’ unceremoniously in the teachings of many denominations and sects, such as spiritual gifts for each believer, the spontaneous exercise of edification and sharing in the ekklesia, the form or pattern of meeting as the simple gathering together in Christ, the prayer of faith that saves (heals) the sick, the baptising and the fullness of the Holy Spirit, the work of Christ in the believer—I could go on, but I think you get the idea.

In the place of what Jesus gave us, Christianity, ‘the church’, has largely left us with mono-ministry, a paid clergy class, clerical titles, the laity concept, man-made liturgies, programs and strategies, reliance on finances, dependence on holy buildings, and so on. I think you know what I mean.

Let’s admit it: we have failed miserably in ‘teaching them to believe all things I have commanded’ and instead taught so many things that are alien to Jesus, unknown to the NT writers, and counter-productive to the Kingdom of God.

So for us post-apostolic times, are we really just left with teachers and theologians deciding which things to believe still apply? Or do we each one just pick and choose what doesn’t apply now?

That is unthinkable.

“Let God be true and every man a liar.”

What happened in 70 AD changed everything

Here is a most odd thing about the New Testament : the momentous event–the fall of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 when the Roman armies destroyed the ‘holy’ city and the Jewish temple was utterly and completely wiped from the surface of the land, and that is never once mentioned as an event of the past anywhere in any of the 27 documents of the New Testament corpus. Never once!

This event was the single most climactic thing to have taken place in that period and in the lives of the first Christian believers (all Jewish) some of whom were alive when these terrible things that took place.

Some of these believers had put the words, actions and sufferings of Jesus down in writings which we know and read today as the four gospels. Three of these authors, Matthew, Mark and Luke the historian, wrote down what Jesus emphatically told the disciples : this momentous event of the destruction of the temple by foreign armies, would take place while some of them would be still alive.

This is amazing. It leaves us to believe that these 27 documents were penned before this awesome historical event took place–before 70 A D and just as Jesus foretold. Written down so very early after the events. Believe it.  

This same Jesus also foretold his sufferings and death at the hands of the occupying forces the Romans and the collaboration of the Jewish leadership of the day which took place about 30 A D. At the same time he also predicted that after three days he would be alive again. He appeared to his incredulous followers in the flesh, alive again. It changed everything.


These historical events changed everything. The shockwaves are still rebounding right around the world and even more today in 2018 A D.

Can you afford not to believe these things?

The earth will be filled with the glory of God as the waters cover the sea.





Who Does Christ Save?

anti-itch meditation

There are many out there who claim to be saved. Who claim that Christ intercedes for them. That Christ has saved their soul.

It’s easy to claim things, what’s typically more difficult is to line yourself up with what the Bible says about stuff.

It would be good for us to know who the Bible says Christ saves. Ready?! Are you sure? You’ll be accountable after you read it. Proceed with caution.

Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
–Hebrews 5:8-9

The Lord Jesus Christ saves those who obey Him. I didn’t say that. God did in the Bible.

Now, I know we don’t like that teaching, but let’s be honest, people don’t like most stuff in the Bible. It would only make sense…

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Justification and Inspiration of Scripture

Excellent post by Jeff Weddell–please read and comment

anti-itch meditation

Everyone and their mother says we are justified by faith alone. If you step out of line with this, you will get whacked.

I have gotten whacked over this many times. I’ve lost count of the number of people who have left my church over this issue. It’s a large number, much larger than the number who currently attend my church.

My life would be easier and my church would be larger if I told people they were justified by faith alone. That good works are optional at best. That sin isn’t that bad because God only sees Christ in you, not what you do.

People like that message and I can see why. I’d like that message too!

I’ve gotten lots of blowback on this issue. I’ve questioned my take on the issue each time someone argued against it.

As far as I can tell, the main thing that…

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Justifying Your Disobedience

This is a post by Jeff Weddell which I am re-blogging. The truth is not being taught to churchgoers it seems. If it was, countless churchy places or clubs would be mostly empty. Where are all the disciple makers, the harvesters? the Spirit led labourers?

anti-itch meditation

This Justification By Faith issue has caused lots of problems over the years. Many arguments have ensued on the issue.

I have personally had this conversation with many people and I’ve heard all the arguments.

With all due respect, the basic argument behind people supporting justification by faith alone is that they don’t want to do anything.

Most of them will bring up the impossibility of doing commands and the general burdensome, guilt-ridden nature of being told you have to do stuff.

Many have the idea that grace means no strings attached, no change needed, and certainly no good works.

Salvation is a gift of God’s grace. We receive it by faith. You cannot earn salvation. You do not merit salvation.

This does not mean that there is nothing you do to get it though.

The only people truly consistent on this issue are Calvinists. They will flat out tell…

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Justification and Faith

This is the clearest and best explanation I have seen on Justification and faith. Thanks Jeff.
Oh Lord continue to shake and not forget your promises of mercy and to show your true character and our collective horror.

anti-itch meditation

Justification means to make something righteous.

The Bible will use words like “declare,” “count,” “accounted,” and “reckoned” to convey the idea.

This does not mean that Christ’s righteous deeds were added to your account, nor that Christ kept the law for you. Nor does it merely mean that God thinks you are righteous even though you continue to live the same life you lived before your supposed justification.

To make something righteous is to do just that: to make something righteous. Even the word “declare” means to show forth. It doesn’t simply mean God said you were righteous. He makes you righteous and you show forth that righteousness by doing righteous things.

People don’t like this idea of justification. We’d rather believe that God sees me as righteous while I continue to live in sin. We like the idea of eating our cake and having it too. Enjoying…

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Objections to Real Justification: Perfectionism

anti-itch meditation

My contention is that Real Justification actually makes people righteous, not just in standing, but also increasingly in practice.

If a person is not growing in righteousness, that person is not saved. Growing in righteousness is actually how a person knows they are saved before Judgment Day’s final verdict.

This sort of statement is scary, because most people playing church today are not growing in righteousness. Most are staying exactly the same and many get worse.

Unrighteous people will get defensive with this teaching (because, think about it, if you actually were a righteous person this teaching would bother you none at all).

“So you’re saying I’m only saved if I never sin? Only if I’ve reached sinless perfection?”

Nope, not what I said. Go back and read what I said. It’s clear I’m not teaching sinless perfection, yet this is defensive maneuver #1 of objectors.

I believe sinless perfection…

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